Welcome to another one of my
diatribes on lists. After a brief foray into Midwar I’m now back with my Late
War love. I recently picked up on Ebay 10 panzer IV’s, and I’ve been trying to
find a decent list to place them into.
number of german lists, and with little modification the list can change around
it very easily, but you need a starting point for your first list – this is the
story of how I decided that first list.
there are some differences to the J but I really can’t see them myself,
so will probably use them relatively interchangeable.
fit cleanly, but not too bad. The real issue is the frakking Schurzen!
There is no way to describe how fiddly these are to add on, you need to
affix 4 plastic brackets on each side (and more than a couple broke
coming off the spru) and then fix the Schurzen on them – way too much
effort to achieve this I think, especially compared to joys like the
open fire StuG’s.
stowage options which you can add, and they work quite nicely when you
paint camo on to break up their shapes.
I like the Panzer IV as tank, due to it’s relative cheapness, extra
MG’s (compared to Stug’s) and the fact you can relatively easily Spam
them in a list. The downside I find is the AT 11 which often means they
need a bit of heavier support.
to be able to do?
Attack – people I play against
regularly have a love of Veteran infantry so I’m going to have to attack them a
Recon – if I’m going to shoot
these Veteran infantry then I need some recon to lift GtG
Smoke – realistically to drive
the infantry off any objectives I need large platoons of Panzer 4’s with smoke
to minimize defensive fire.
Heavy Anti Tank – Lets also not
forget there is a likelihood I’ll be fighting some heavier tanks and AT11 just
won’t cut it!
need in the list, the next section are the less important but ‘would be nice’
we’ll be doing some D-Day games so having the list in Atlantik wall or very
close to a list from there is a bonus.
I also think it’ll be good to try and
utilize existing units I have – I’ve built up my germans a lot this year I may
as well use them!
think the quality of tanks when the front and side armour is low is really
important, it means anti tank fire in assault is minimized and just adds to the
LW intelligence briefings there were really 4 lists which struck me.
Atlantik Wall Panzer Lehr –
It’s from Atlantik wall so helps, but it also has all the bits you need to make
a well rounded force – and I’ve had all the Lehr panzer grenadiers in blisters
for about 9 months!
Pieper – The only problem with
this Devil’s charge list is he trained Panzer 4, so less keen but an option due
to the spearhead mobility
Panzer Company Grey Wolf – lots
of options, but strangely a little bland I find.
Panzers to the Meuse Lehr –
Veterans and a spearhead move but little decent smoke.
So there it was my short list, and one
thing struck me Lehr was there twice… And that pretty much sold me on those two
lists, as I was almost able to do the same list with only small changes between
them to play both in the Ardennes and in Normandy.
Due to my winter love, I’ve started with
the Ardennes list, so what am I thinking of?
- HQ Panzer 4’s – this way I can add 2
extra tanks to platoons assaulting
- Panzer Platoon’s – 2 Platoons of 4 Panzer
4’s – they may have slow traverse but I can work with that
- Gepanzerte Aufklarungs – To take advantage
of the spearhead rules you need one of these, Due to the need to clear out infantry I’ve gone for full squad but not enough for the tank hunter team.
- Tank hunter Platoon – 3 Panzer 4/70’s (V) –
extra AT and relatively cheap – it was a toss up between these and a pair of
- Panzerspah Platoon – I really love the half tracks, but the cheap of chips 8-rads are my choice here!
- Volks rocket Launcher – 3 Nebs for
smoke/pinning as required.
A nice little list I think personally, and
not much needed to make a list for Atlantik wall’s Lehr either, for that I’ve come up with this.
- HQ 2 Panzer 4’s – again for assaulting and also making a battlegroup if needed
- Panzer Platoon – 2 platoons of 4 Panzers, though I’m thinking of a 5 and 3 too.
- Panther Platoon – I need some heavier AT, and the Panther is the perfect tank for this
- Half Track panzerspah – love the models so with a points break these guys are in
- Panzer Anti Aircraft – 2 Flakpanzer 38(t) I needed some cheap AA, and these seemed a cool looking model
- Rocket Launcher Battery – 3 Nebs, at least these guys may unpin due to their CV nature
So there we have it two similar but different lists, hopefully both i’ll get to try out soon and bring you some reports, as well as progress on this project.